BBC Radio tunes into the driver shortage

Logistics and the driver shortage was the focus for BBC Radio Northampton’s Stuart Linnell at Breakfast show, which was broadcast on Wednesday 29August. Logistics is important to Northampton  – the sector employs some 45,000 people but it is warning of a crisis due to the shortage of LGV (Large Goods Vehicle) drivers. Dr Ross Moloney, CEO of Skills for Logistics was invited onto the show to discuss the issues.

In Northamptonshire right now, for every one candidate qualified to be a lorry driver there are nine vacancies. We have reached this pinch point even before the economy picks up and gets going.

This is a UK wide problem. Logistics operators are struggling to recruit drivers, yet it is estimated that the UK needs an extra 150,000 drivers by 2020.

The average age of a LGV driver is 53 – much higher than the national average. Many are coming up to retirement while not enough young people are coming up to replace them. This could have a significant impact on supply chain management – ie, how goods are moved around.

Look around you now. Most of what you can see has been delivered by a lorry at some part of its supply chain journey. As the UK looks to grow, the economy we will need more lorry drivers. How can we be a manufacturing base without an infrastructure to deliver things to the market or to warehouses? This is a fundamental challenge facing the country.

There are five issues that have brought the sector to this pinch point:

  1. Economic growth  – both domestic and international – creates more demand for drivers to move what we are producing and hope to consume.
  2. The sector’s average age is 53 – much higher than other sectors; 13 per cent are over 60 and worryingly only 2 per cent of drivers are under 25.
  3. The perception of logistics, which is not traditionally seen as a ‘career of choice’.
  4. Changing needs around training. The technology in modern logistics establishments is phenomenal.
  5. More directives from the EU that demand that our drivers have mandatory Certificate for Professional Competence.

You have to be more skilled to be a driver than before. We sometimes think that ‘free delivery’ means there isn’t a value to it but driving is a professional occupation that can go places – quite literally of course – leading to a proper career. That’s a perception we are working to instill within school children and others who may not understand what logistics is.

Everything you see, wherever you are right now is there because of the logistics. No wonder the sector as a whole is the fourth biggest employer in the country. That shocks people the first time they hear it but we really are the driving force of the economy.

We need more lorry drivers but what are we going to do about it? We are working to overcome barriers to entry. Licence acquisition is expensive but we are working with government to find ways to support people. There are local initiatives but we are trying to get to a national strategy to support people who want to be lorry drivers. Employers and individuals want more visibility of the standard of training in the sector, which is something we are currently looking at Skills for Logistics.

Driving is a job that really suits some people while for others it’s not appropriate. We are trying to myth bust and make it really clear to people the job they are getting themselves into. In terms of LGV driver pay, it depends on who you work for and the hours that you work. It can range from about £500 per week up to £40,000 for drivers delivering valuable and/or dangerous loads such as petrol.

In addition to lorry drivers the whole of the UK’s logistics sector needs well-trained and skilled talent.  It might take some time but if you are interested in logistics and driving, it will definitely be interested in you – Logistics is a job for life. 

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183 comments for “BBC Radio Tunes Into Driver Shortage”

  1. Dave
    Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 9:02:38 AM

    I have worked in the logistics industry as an HGV driver for approaching 15 years in that time I have seen employers attitude to drivers vary seemingly in direct conjunction with driver supply and demand. So I have no sympathy for logistics companies in their hour of need.

    Approximately ten years ago there was also a shortage of drivers so pay and conditions were upwardly mobile until the Labour government opened the floodgates to the EU workforce and many employers were quite smug about the foreign drivers being willing to work for less than their UK born counterparts. (not the greatest logistics success story as many foreign drivers proved themselves incapable of doing the job, many firms suffered an increase in damage and a downturn in driver productivity).

    A few years later the recession bit leading to a downturn in freight movement and an oversupply of available drivers, pay and conditions worsened many drivers took a big hit in the wallet and worked harder for less myself included. Employers and Agencies skilfully talked pay rates down and negotiated / dictated better deals for themselves at the expense of many a driver!

    I’m of the firm belief that there is no quick fix to this problem as all EU drivers are already here doing the job and a newly qualified driver will run straight into this catch 22 situation being most companies usually require two years experience and to be over 25 years of age for insurance purposes. Many firms are not prepared to pay an inflated insurance premium / excess for newly passed drivers only to in turn risk their expensive vehicles and valuable loads to newbies who may not prove capable of getting the job done!

    A further complication is the finances required to pass the two driving tests to obtain a C&E; license and undertake a basic medical and initial CPC training, pay for digital tachograph card to earn circa £9 per hour probably less for a newbie. Comparable employment can be sourced with none of the above expenditure or hassle in order to run in the above catch 22 situation which is no experience = no job, also the hours are long as working days tend to range from 8-15hrs.

    Employment training or retraining schemes will probably yield a very limited percentage quantity of career drivers as the DSA has made LGV practical driving tests more difficult to pass than ever with various changes to the test criteria. Personally I do find it difficult to see someone going from the long term unemployed or circa eight hours a day with a known finish time to doing shifts up to 15hrs long and potentially living in a tin box all week.

    The good news is becoming a HGV driver is a career choice only for the extremely dedicated, you basically need a deeply engrained enjoyment of driving in your blood and a willingness to learn every site rule of every place you visit, you will have to work very hard to get established in this field of employment, passing the two driving tests are merely the baby steps towards a career in driving and the rewards are:- been ran ragged by transport companies, disrespected by transport clerks , having VOSA on your back waiting to fine you for anything they can find wrong , starting your shift at any unearthly time of the clock day or night a company can possibly conceive and being discriminated against for any driving misdemeanours you already have on your license or may pick up along the way in our speed camera ridden country!

    My prediction is the driver shortage will only worsen everything has already been tried to cure the problem . Brace yourselves for another round of driver retirement in 2019 when the next round of periodic CPC training bites!

  2. Craig Johnson
    Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 7:34:43 PM

    I only wish to complement dave on his comments only a true driver would have such a grasp of this industry
    well done i think you said it all
    Writing this after another 15hr day sat in a layby living the dream

  3. Colin
    Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 1:29:33 PM

    Well written Dave. It’s definitely a driver pay shortage rather than a driver shortage. I think many lorry drivers who are getting a pound or two over the minimum wage have become disillusioned and demoralised with all the over zealous rules, regulations, health and safety and crazy fines have had enough and are leaving the haulage industry in their droves, including myself (28 years in general haulage).

  4. Paul McMahon
    Sunday, October 26, 2014 at 10:28:29 PM

    Well what did they expect am glad the truckers that still run now need more dosh and respect if ye want yr bread in the morning foks

  5. Edward Thomas
    Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 2:38:07 AM

    It should be stressed that since April of 2014 the truck driving tests only require competence in an automatic gearbox vehicle, provided the candidate has already passed the car test in a manual gearbox car. As someone who struggled around the hilly Swindon test route with its umpteen roundabouts, for which the appropriate gear was essential, this surely makes it hugely easier! Subsequently alas, despite my age being 48, I haven’t had the respect of employers whether or not they themselves can drive a truck, much less the mentoring crucial – I have met so many ex-truckers who now work in warehouse work etc – generally it seems a terrible waste of their licenses for short-sighted bosses to overwork drivers so that they seek other work as soon as possible…

  6. lee
    Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 11:34:18 AM

    At 33 years old i need to be earning more than £9.50 an hour as a class 2 driver . how am i ever going to buy or rent my own property , start a family and live on that ? There are plenty of jobs out there driving trucks and not one of them is a fair rate of pay based on what the job asks of you. Half the transport managers dont even have the licence to drive them and have never truly experienced the job. Computer says you can get from point A to point B in this time blah blah but in reality they have no idea. what young new driver would want to come into this game pay out £2000 approx to acquire there licence then every 5 years pay £400 maybe more for cpc training only to be earning £2 an hour more than someone who works in Mc Donalds that requires having no skills whatsoever. Too many haulage operators using and abusing drivers across the country they are all as bad as one another. I shall be returning to work as a workshop fitter . Dave summed it up perfectly . i’ve had my hgv licence 7 years and i’ve had enough of it already. big big changes are needed.

  7. jamie
    Saturday, November 15, 2014 at 6:46:20 PM

    If more drivers are needed bosses will have to start paying better wages and treat employees with some respect or new people wont come into industry and who can blame them if i knew 8 years ago what i know now i would never of even looked at a truck

  8. Neil
    Saturday, November 15, 2014 at 10:49:35 PM

    I have been a lorry driver for 26yrs and in the last 10yrs i have seen a dramatic demise in this industry, the management treat you like dirt, they expect you to work 15hr days have total disregard for your social life and what it does to your health. Most of the planners have no idea on how to plan have no idea of the rules and regulations of what it takes to be a lorry driver all they think about is hitting targets to please the hierarchy. Until the management of ALL transport companies wake up and smell the coffee there wont be any drivers left, they will never be able to attract young people into the profession when the hours are long and the pay is low, they tried flooding the market with eastern Europeans but most of them caused so much damage it backfired on greedy hauliers out to make a quick buck. So when the 65% of the over 50s retire in the next 10yrs there will be no one to deliver the goods.

  9. steve light
    Sunday, November 16, 2014 at 11:20:06 AM

    70 hours a week on average for £500, away all week and not so much as a pat on the back. I resigned on friday from a full time job to take my chances with an agency for £5 more per hour and home every night. Until the haulage industry comes together and pays a decent rate drivers will become more disillusioned and look for alternative income

  10. steve light
    Sunday, November 16, 2014 at 11:24:22 AM

    70 hours a week on average for £500, away all week and not so much as a pat on the back. I resigned on friday from a full time job to take my chances with an agency for £5 more per hour and home every night. Until the haulage industry comes together and pays a decent rate drivers will become more disillusioned and look for alternative income

  11. dave lewis
    Sunday, November 16, 2014 at 7:13:36 PM

    ive got me lgv 1, i drove for 3 months. i was quick to see the conditions, hours and pay was shite. driving taxi now, more than happy

  12. Gary Wood
    Monday, November 17, 2014 at 2:33:10 PM

    Here, here Dave.
    Put simply, as an agency driver, who wants to work 15 hour shifts for less money than we were getting 10 years ago, employer on your back pushing you all day and treating you like dirt? Their attitude is if you don’t like it, get lost.
    And less than you can get working in a shop, clean, dry, 8 hours a day.

    Every other industry in the world that has a shortage of staff puts pay up to recruit. Except haulage apparently.
    It may seem an odd concept to grasp, but if you need someone, you have to attract them; rather than spouting about training and raising the image etc. blah, blah, put pay up and I think you’ll find you’ll solve the problem. No one says that do they?

    And finally, I too have no sympathy whatsoever; on a zero hour – gone tomorrow if I don’t behave and obey every command like a slave – contract, why should I? I’ve had my Class 1 HGV licence for 25 years, but apparently the E.E.C. (then European Community, then Union, clue is in the name) has decided I can’t drive anymore.
    I haven’t voted for foreigners to tell me what to do in my own country and I don’t recognize their (alleged and assumed) authority.
    Sadly, too many pro-euro do gooders do and anyone that supports this nonsense is to blame but will never admit it.
    The government signed up to it knowing full well the consequences, they aren’t that daft.

    I’m now on the dole and have no guilt whatsoever about claiming off the state.
    For one I’ve paid in which is more than all of these immigrants and secondly, the state put me out of work so they can keep me now.
    Well done government and euro fanatics, that’s progress. Hurrah!

  13. Joby
    Wednesday, November 19, 2014 at 8:05:02 PM

    I am 26 and got my theory tomorrow the way I see it the more red tape and legislation the government bring in the more responsibility is required by the driver. For example the wage between a pipe fitter and a gas safe engineers wages is a £20 plus difference as the gas safe engineer has so much more responsibility. what 25 year old is going to want sit in a cab all there 20s when there mates are raving and enjoying there youth for me I have three kids so it’s not a choice I need to earn. Insurance company’s want you to be over 25 in most cases and have the 2 year experience I’m looking at passing and going on to minimum wage for 2 years to get my foot in. I know after my two years of learning the shortage will have properly got worse and haulage company’s will be forced to increase wages to find the professional drivers look now type in to google your local city close to a port or airport there offering £16 per hour it’s become desperate already. It’s a drivers market not a employers one. Just one last thing people say companies will get foreign drivers but even they are fed up with working for low wages and high responsibility .I’m led to believe in Poland CPC is 265 hours in a way cpc is doing a good thing to drivers.


  14. Graham, Hull
    Thursday, November 20, 2014 at 9:12:18 AM

    Truck driving i a low status profession. This will deter many from entering the profession. There are more than twice as many qualified HGV drivers as there are trucks so there isn’t a driver shortage.
    Low pay
    low moral
    low status
    coupled with.
    High demands placed on the Drivers.
    High risk of fines/endorsements.
    An over regulated industry.
    Little in the way of family life leading to divorce.
    In the 28 years that i have been a driver i have never seen the transport industry in such a state of disarray. 10 ago I was earning a reasonable wage. Today i am £1 per hour in front of the national minimum wage.
    The Driver CPC has put extra pressure on the transport industry. but it is only going to get worse next year as demands on the transport industry increase.
    If you want drivers in the saddle then then wages have to increase.
    Simples.

  15. Graham, Hull
    Thursday, November 20, 2014 at 9:17:44 AM

    Truck driving i a low status profession. This will deter many from entering the profession. There are more than twice as many qualified HGV drivers as there are trucks so there isn’t a driver shortage.
    Low pay
    low moral
    low status
    coupled with.
    High demands placed on the Drivers.
    High risk of fines/endorsements.
    An over regulated industry.
    Little in the way of family life leading to divorce.
    In the 28 years that i have been a driver i have never seen the transport industry in such a state of disarray. 10 ago I was earning a reasonable wage. Today i am £1 per hour in front of the national minimum wage.
    The Driver CPC has put extra pressure on the transport industry. but it is only going to get worse next year as demands on the transport industry increase.
    If you want drivers in the saddle then then wages have to increase.
    Simples.

  16. stephen j dearman
    Friday, November 21, 2014 at 11:26:14 AM

    we need driver training schools ‘not just for passing the hgv driving test but for all matters surounding the career of the driver e.g knowledge of type of vehicle given/loading securing of loads/routes suitable for hgv’s shown and planned before departure/ pupils given hands on skills working around the vehicle/ out on the road driving around cities like london with its LLB 7am-2100 lorry ban and emission zones etc… since i was a kid ‘i was lucky enough to have been taught as a yard lad in my late fathers haulage firm how to rope n sheet /chain etc all manner of loads and when old enough to drive shown by older well seasoned drivers the way of the lorry driver now 36 years later so much has changed and mostly not for the good. when i started driving ‘ i started with a small 7.5 ton flat bed truck and then the class 3 16 ton rigid flat and then 32ton artics all without automatic gearboxes now the norm is 44ton these trucks are to big for our roads you can’t park them ‘most towns are sick of them theres no respect for the driver from most other road users and the public the drivers hours are long with very few places to park up to eat or sleep after a long day in short we drive 3 times the size of a lorry of a 1950s 8 wheeler lorry 4 times the distance and for a pittance these days only to be treated like dirt most of the time the whole industry needs a complete overhaul nothing less will do and the industry can start by charging proper rates to their customers and the uk charging other countries to use our road network.

  17. stephen j dearman
    Friday, November 21, 2014 at 11:50:28 AM

    charge the proper haulage rates instead of under cutting each other then you’ll have the money to pay the drivers ‘the proper wage for the job and just how much do other countries pay at the port of entry to use our roads.

  18. Chris
    Thursday, November 27, 2014 at 6:51:13 PM

    all the drivers have put across good points. Let’s face it I now have my license because it is a backup if I ever lose my regular job. With drivers not getting much pay but being fined on the spot for genuine mistakes by the dvsa and the confusing rules that are both the EU and WTD directives why would £9 per hour be worth it? Not to mention being stuck in traffic and missing out on a decent home life.

  19. DAVID
    Friday, November 28, 2014 at 7:07:48 AM

    i passed my class 2 2 years ago if i had of knew of the red tape then i would of saved a bit of money i havent even dont walk around of cpc to much money

  20. HGV Drivers Jobs Direct
    Friday, November 28, 2014 at 11:48:38 AM

    There maybe a shortage of drivers, but there is still lots of work going if you look hard enough and are willing to work!

  21. v prasad
    Saturday, November 29, 2014 at 2:22:44 PM

    15yeares hgv/ hpv. Buckles India. Phone no 08985007009

  22. Gareth
    Wednesday, December 10, 2014 at 12:21:24 AM

    Oh we really are a bunch of old women when it comes down to it aren’t we! Yes it’s crap pay, yes the hours are too long and yes the gaffa is always on your back. Problem is we keep putting up with it. Ive been with two unions and they both held their hands up in surrender when the bosses snapped their fingers. I am making it my purpose in life to put youngsters off from entering the industry. Put your £3000 into getting a cpcs card for a dumptruck or 360 digger I tell them. Building site workers go home at 430 and get paid enormous amounts for evening and weekend work. I’m a twenty plus year class one driver, I drive artics filled with ADR for a company hauling for two of the big boys. So what do I get paid for this? £7.50 flat rate with no ppe, no uniform, no sick pay and no respect from anyone. Comes to something when you drive the arctic into the supermarket and are jealous of the T’s and C’s of the checkout girl…

  23. Astyn
    Sunday, December 14, 2014 at 11:20:46 AM

    I am 25 years old I have worked as a class 2 driver for 1 year and a class 2 plus hiab(crane)driver for 1 year so a total of 2 years as a hgv2 driver and have rarely work less than 11 to 15 hours a day with my first years wages being £9 an hour and was constantly talked to like crap treated like I was dumb then I left that company and started on £10 pound an hour and for an agency having to pay the agency a portion of that for getting me work I was thrown from job to job doing ridicules hours getting home and having enuf time to have a shower eat dinner late and then straight of to bed for the early start the next day I have a 2 and a half year old little boy that I get to see at the weekends because I’m out to work in the morning before he gets up usually around 3 to 5 o clock and get home after he is in bed around 7.30 to 8.30 around 3 months ago I had to take two months of work because of stress I now work full time again for a steel company and last week I done 64 and a half hours and see my little boy 1 out of my five days at work for half an hour before he had to go to bed not one company I have worked for is willing to help you out often getting the loads wrong and the delivery sites wrong witch I then have to sort out myself re loading or moving goods on the vehicle every morning at around 4 o clock because of them overloading certain axels I have often thought about giving up my role as a hgv driver as the pay is not worth the stress and ridicules hours I have to do when I could work in a role as a shelf stacker or wear house worker that turns up the same time an go’s home the same time every day with not much thinking to there job for not much less wage rate than I am on now

  24. Gary Corda
    Sunday, December 14, 2014 at 6:33:39 PM

    I have been an Lgv/Hgv driver for almost 40 years. The changes that have occurred in that time have been quite remarkable, especially the last 15 years, unlike the rates of pay and just as importantly, the low regard that the drivers have been held in. Targets and more targets is the watchword, that’s all the traffic planners and transport managers seem to understand. Most of these jobs-worths know what needs doing but have never driven a truck and so have no comprehension of the job. I can say with complete honesty, that during the last 20years, there has not been one transport manager that I have worked for, that understood the drivers. They all appear to know the rules, they all appear to know the law, but the one thing that they don’t know or understand are people. Transport Managers in years gone by, were in the main, ex-drivers that knew the industry and understood the job, they may not have been the most politically correct people and many were rough around the edges but they had a certain honesty about them. Most of the ‘New’ crop of managers and I call them managers in the most loosest terms, all seem to have completed some short in-house course or a short college course which they feel qualifies them for this most important of jobs. Most seem to want to stamp their own authority, which leads them to be confrontational, most care only about covering their usually big fat arses and their usually big fat wages(the older more experienced drivers know the type).
    The drivers on the other hand, have had to live on virtually stagnant wages for the last 9 or 10 years. The drivers, for whatever reason and I’ve come across them all, seem to be terrified about complaining or confronting the managers on a wide range of issues, because there could be reprisals. The older drivers seem to be less worried about this, they will speak their mind, ending quite often in confrontation and argument. This quite often results in the driver being disciplined or even being dismissed. The result is a shortage of good, experienced drivers and a plethora of know-all know-nothing creatures, running transport offices up and down the land.
    The Transport industry needs to wake up to the scourge of this unfit style of management and manager and change this culture that has been allowed to take hold and fester for so long.
    I am yet another driver that has changed career at 61, should have done it years ago.

  25. Tom Offord
    Friday, December 19, 2014 at 2:50:52 PM

    X

  26. Dimitar-foreign driver
    Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 2:16:38 AM

    Dave, I read only first two paragraphs from your comment and I’ve got only one question: How many of British drivers coming to work when is snowing? God bless UK with average winter temperature around 6 degrees…..
    I’m not going to write next novel about the driving skills for British drivers under this post, just because will try to be polite and to save your reputation.

  27. frank grimley
    Friday, January 16, 2015 at 4:37:12 PM

    I have moved to east Sussex. And I am in the process of renewing my class 0ne licence. But I can’t afford cpc. As I am unemployed. I am 51 years old. and to be honest this cpc is just like the congestion charge. A money making stelph tax. So I would like to thank the powers that be. Unemployed truck driver who can’t afford cpc tax,

  28. frank grimley
    Friday, January 16, 2015 at 4:39:30 PM

    I have moved to east Sussex. And I am in the process of renewing my class 0ne licence. But I can’t afford cpc. As I am unemployed. I am 51 years old. and to be honest this cpc is just like the congestion charge. A money making stelph tax. So I would like to thank the powers that be. Unemployed truck driver who can’t afford cpc tax,

  29. frank grimley
    Friday, January 16, 2015 at 4:45:50 PM

    I have moved to east Sussex. And I am in the process of renewing my class 0ne licence. But I can’t afford cpc. As I am unemployed. I am 51 years old. and to be honest this cpc is just like the congestion charge. A money making stelph tax. So I would like to thank the powers that be. Unemployed truck driver who can’t afford cpc tax,

  30. Bobby
    Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 7:56:01 PM

    Agencys are the devil in this profession! Gives companies too much power! Drivers are scared too refuse crap jobs an pay for fear of gettin no work from agency again! Needs proper pay and proper contracts too change the shortage! I know alot of drivers who have let there licences go over when the cpc came in because they point blank refuse to work for agencys! With poor treatment and pay!

  31. Allen Matthews
    Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 2:33:35 PM

    I have worked in the logistics industry for the past 40 years as a Distribution Manager, HGV driver & Union Rep.
    I returned to the UK after being away for 2 year and joined an agency as an employee. As a result of an EU directive the agency suggested that employees should become self employed thus enabling the agency to ignore the directive and also not having to pay holiday pay-employers NI- and not having to deduct Income Tax.
    Because the agencies were supposed not to have control over the drivers, otherwise they were then considered as sole agents, they suggested that the drivers operate through an Umbrella Company or Personal Service company who would take care of hours, wages, and tax matters for which they would charge a %.
    Another option was for the driver to set up a Limited company and obtain work from one or more agencies.
    As you see this is now becoming very complicated and expensive for the drivers who really only want to work for a reasonable wage. unfortunately the real power is in the hands of the agencies as they can still dictate whether a driver is offered or not assignments, and what ever rate pay the agency and client(transport company) agree.
    The pay rates have altered very little in the past 5 years and in a great number of cases have been reduced.
    I have become aware that a large number of agency drivers aged 50+ are leaving the industry because of what they see as total lack of respect and remuneration for their skills, commitment, and personal dignity. They have no employment rights, no set hours of employment, have responsibility for their own Tax and accountancy( unless they pay sometimes in excess of £1000 per year)
    Who gains financially from this situation. – Transport Companies, Driver Agencies. Who looses – the self employed/or Ltd. Co. drivers.
    And people wonder why there is a shortage !!!!!

  32. Nigel Beard
    Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 5:26:35 AM

    Drivers being they’re own worst enemies as usual I am afraid . I am glad to be coming to the end of my driving career , done it over 40 years now , used to love it , done low loaders , car transporters , general haulage BRS , tankers etc so you get the picture. I am CPC and licensed up until 65 / 66 but I will be gone now as soon as .

    I am sick and tired of the bullshit we have to go through , what makes me laugh is most drivers reading this will have the CPC now , but most of them must have been asleep during the period involving vehicle speeds ,, they all come past me all day long 50 on a dual carriageway means that 50 not pushing the pedal till it disappears through the floor !

    But thats just drivers mentality ,, showing the boss exactly what heroes they are for the £7.50p per hour they work for .

    You cannot be sacked for working legally and IF you was to slow down and work legally your pay would go up ,, but it won’t because YOU still keep getting around the problem

    Your welcome to it

  33. rodjames
    Friday, February 13, 2015 at 9:47:55 AM

    I’ve looked at all of the comments on here, and basically I don’t need to say one word! but I will, I gained my class 3 back in 1979 under the vocational scheme which ran back then, cut my teeth doing builders merchant deliveries on 10 tonners, (no Hiab’s then) spent the last 30 odd years in the industry, and now its time for CPC, well I’m sorry I’ve hung up my keys, no more Low bridges, Width restrictions, Traffic wardens, VOSA checks, worrying about getting all of your deliveries done in the day, turning the tachograph on rest while delivering because there aren’t enough hours in the day, and the one that everyone on here as so far failed to mention, DRIVER BEHAVIOUR SOFTWARE which effectively tells tales to your back office if you go over the speed limit by 2 MPH or corner too fast, or do an emergency stop for whatever reason! not to mention the Geofencing aspect which alerts the office if you should change your prescribed route, what crap is all of this? they can keep their HGV jobs, it serves them right that they can’t recruit, I have no sympathy for them, the old saying goes, “be careful what you wish for.”

  34. Phil rhodes
    Friday, February 27, 2015 at 2:36:14 PM

    Interesting reading this article for myself as an lgv class one driver of 20 years..
    Sadly though the industry and government over legislation are the problem due to poor pay rates long and often unsociable working hours with the possibility of spending time away from home add to this vosa on spot fines which can rob a driver of a weeks wage very easily for trivial offences such as blown light bulb or missing trailer number plate ect £100 a time and over priced motorway facilities £25 per night when the driver is only paid £20 night out money, its easy to see why anyone would want to spend £3,000 to qualify as an lgv driver when they can earn the same hourly rate working in asda stacking shelves or in a call centre with leas hassle to cope with..
    A sad situation which has been in tbe making for many years and between vosa and tbe government they have no one but themselves to blame for a problem they created

  35. Joseph, Somerset
    Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 9:16:01 PM

    I’m 27, and I passed my class 1 in December, and I am fortunate enough to have had a family company employ me, and I do a good job with a supermarket, not bound by the same, strict rules as their employees.

    It was not fun and games getting there. £3,500 to do my class 2 & 1 tests, theory tests and CPC… and not a single scheme out there to help me pay for it. I had to get a loan instead. Yet there are schemes to pay for ridiculous projects, quite often for people who have no interest at all in getting a job. Priorities in this country are entirely wrong.

    It doesn’t help when younger drivers are demonised by the press when something goes wrong; take the events in Bath for example – a tragedy by all accounts, but don’t label all new and young drivers the same, regardless of fault.

    I quit the agency after they told me my £8ph wage for class 2 would rise to an awesome – wait for it – £8.50ph for class 1. Pathetic pay quite frankly, for a skilled job which cost an arm and a leg to obtain the licence for.

    The whole sector needs to stop treating drivers like dirt, and start realising that their business only succeeds because of dedicated drivers with a vocational licence that not just anyone can obtain.

  36. Jerry
    Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 12:00:53 PM

    Read the Header again – and you see that the 5 issues shown should be six, becouse it’s omitting the most crucial issue that has caused this to come at pinch point! It should have started with: number 1. Pay.
    Nearly all the above comments shout this out.
    We drivers will endure the 5 five issues, but not forever on the first issue.
    Doesn’t the message still get through?

  37. david scott
    Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 8:03:14 AM

    Hi. I have been driving hgv’s for 5 year. Iv have family who’s done the job for 40 odd year. The wages that companies pay are shocking. In my time driving iv no seen a increase in wages and when i speak to family members who have done this they say not much has changed from 70’s 80’s n 90’s so why not increase wages based on people are driver cpc , all the different training etc. I think that class 1 drivers should have a salary of no less that 32k and 26k for class 2 based on 48hr week then over time

  38. steve dearman
    Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:00:19 AM

    Yesterday ‘i attended a assessment for a large logistics company who transport goods to a large DIY chain based in the uk ‘this via a agency the test lasted over 8 hours and the guy who assessed me was a well seasoned driver who’d been a driver for a good few years … i passed the test to the stardard required ‘he then asked how i felt about my driving and i replied ‘yes it was ok we carried on taking and ‘just on interest i asked him how many drivers meet their standard. ‘what he told me shocked the life out me most of the drivers who attend these tests don’t get out the class room ‘let alone behind the wheel of a 44ton artic lorry (FACT) the week before all the drivers who attended were from Eastern European countries and i was the first British driver he had taken this week (Thursday) some of the eastern euro Drivers were good drivers but some had clearly never been behind a wheel in their life ‘he also told about one or two British drivers he had assessed a few weeks before ‘who were very arrogant about having to under go the test and they’d been driving for 40 years with out a accident…my view of all this is this my family have been in road haulage for over 70 years and i’ve driven lorries for over 38 years all the skills i learned such as roping and sheeting and chaining down of loads etc were never given any skill level rating such as other trades i.e a brickie or plummer because of progress i.e the curtain sider which saves time and you don’t need the skills of roping and sheeting now so you can lower the wages because you’ve a wider choice of driver add now in the last years the sat nav and automatic gearboxes and you open the floodgates even wider……’only one slight over site trucks are bigger and wages and conditions have not kept pace with the above progress and lower skilled and badly paid people are the only game in town be it in the ‘cab ‘the transport office the supermarket rdcs the warehouse goods in, least of all other road users ….pray to god Britain’ the hauliers and drivers never do decide to with draw their services because from the soles on your shoes to the fillings in your teeth ….it comes by Road and now ‘this industry is on its Arse keep taking the cheap option i.e nearly everything down the partime/temp agency route is ‘not doing transport running companies any good or this countries economy. for a strong lasting economy you need good well paid employees people are ‘not going to shell out thousands on licences for a uncertain future ‘four days here 2 days there. GET IT and some of those out there who think its just fine as things are just think of what may be behind you in that cab of that 44 tonner ‘or that commute home on the 17.30 tonight ‘only this time some low Paid unskilled non Assessed driver has now hit the 13.2 high rail bridge with his 14.6 tall lorry without reporting it. because he can;t read the road signs (its in engish) or he’s too arrogant and knows it all. thats not going to help joe or jill public. again start paying for the job before its too late.

  39. Nick Stiles
    Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:07:53 PM

    Long hours, low pay, beligerant attitude of employers and if I had a quid for the statement from the boss “if you dont do it……..” and if you’ve been in the industry long enough you’ll know the rest of the statement!! Passed my class 1 1985, now the average age, living in a cab space that a convicted criminal would not be allowed to live in as it is against his human rights with no access to a toilet or running water in a layby that has got traffic roaring past all night long causing disturbed sleep. On the spot fines, the general public views us as either fat,dim or dangerous and quite often verbally abused or obscenely gestured too for driving so slowly (uphill) and the powers that be wonder why no-one wants to do the job and so little youngsters are entering the industry. If I had my time again I would certainly have chosen a different career. oh well, I’ll keep ploughing on till i’m 67 as I know nothing else now, at least we do’nt have to endure drum brakes, crash gearboxes,drafty cabs and constant rope and sheet anymore.

  40. tony bateman
    Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 1:02:56 AM

    I am a 68 year old class 1 hgv driver i have 30 yrs at this job..before that i was a milkman for 18 yrs and that ended with start of supermarkets..i have no intention of retire yet…you need around £3000 to get a class 1 licence and that is if you pass all 3 catagories first time….is it any suprise that there is shortage

  41. Michael clinton
    Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 7:03:23 AM

    I recently took redundancy thinking that the hgv driver shortage would ease me into a new career , I had my car licence since 1989 and decided
    To sit my lgv C licence and hiab certificate . Having passed the lgv C and hiab I now find it almost impossible to gef a job I have full 35 hrs cpc but no experience after doing all this and registering with numerous agencies most of whom want you to work for £7 an hour . No wonder there is a driver shortage I have all the certificates of professional competence and driving licence but can’t get a company to take me on what a joke .

  42. Ryan
    Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 10:22:09 AM

    The government should bring in South African drivers under their south African license and allow them to use their heavy duty drivers license in the UK I know tons of drivers and I mean good ones from South Africa that wouldn’t think twice for going to the UK to become a lorry driver.
    If government was to aid the South Africans to a work permit for two years as long as they have a certificate of competence for a vehicle combination and hold a valid pdp”professional driving permit” as well as a valid South African License I don’t see as to why they can’t allow them to enter the country with their drivers license and to work and use their drivers license not only would it ease up the shortage of drivers but also would give them the the ability to experience another country abroad.
    But then again that’s just my personal opinion

  43. Rhea Prince
    Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 2:46:28 PM

    I have decided to take the bull by the horns and go for my Class 1. I’ve read through the comments and although they are quite scary I am not being put off any longer.
    I am a female who drives anything I can get my hands on and rides motorbikes, not the stereotypical truck driver. But I know that I will love the job and realise a dream I had since I was 14 (over 30 years now).
    I would rather be driving than stuck behind a desk.
    So excited 🙂

  44. steve
    Friday, April 17, 2015 at 11:34:04 PM

    The same thing is happening in Canada. The city was paying $28.00 per hour for a lorry driver and had over 300 apply for 3 positions. many large trucking companies think that they can get a driver for less than $.50 c per mile or $.30 per km. Other jobs in Canada pay $20.00 to $30.00 per hour Most lorry drivers in Canada are doing other jobs that pay better.

  45. brian
    Friday, May 8, 2015 at 1:13:46 PM

    for anyone who is a hgv driver and claiming jobseekers,i was driving hgv2 for 10yrs lost my job in nov14 and asked at the jobcentre if it was possible to receive funding for my medical,digi card,and cpc training as i was kept back from employment as i could not afford to pay for these,to my amazement they agreed i got the medical and digi card took the reciepts to the jobcentre and the money went back in my acc that day and on the 25th i go for my one week cpc training,i choose to get back behind the wheel because its what i do and on the scale of things its sometimes a thankless job {managers who dont care} with shit pay i make sure the vehicle is roadworthy and stick to the speed limit and anyone who complains managers or office donkeys i ask them to send me an email stating that they want me out the yard before doing safety checks this usually shuts them up.

  46. Paul
    Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:58:10 PM

    I have just been offered a job with DHL , they provide the training and I have a job at the end of it , £29500 per year I dnt know if this is good or bad. I need to decide by Friday if I want the job. My only negative though is will I be away from home often ! As my partner has just had a baby and I’m scared I will miss out on him growing up. Does anyone have any expirrence or knowledge about DHL ?

  47. Dean Smith
    Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 6:20:37 PM

    I have been driving for 32 years, I drive for one of the so called better companies however you are still treated like a second class citizen as far as I am concerned, Long hours, poor pay and conditions and generally treated like [email protected]@t no wonder there is a Shortage of drivers out there when you have greedy companies that dont want to offer full time positions or even a decent pay packet they’ll expect you to work all the hours that god sends and you’ll be lucky to get £10 an hr, well I suppose thats pretty good if your an eastern european thats used to earning in a month what we earn in a week, unfortunatlly the cost of living here in the good old uk is a hell of a lot more than living in Poland,Albania, Latvia etc, Anyway my advise to anyone thinking of driving a big shinny truck is think again, it aint what its all cracked up to be so go and spend your three grand or so on something nice instead of a crappy HGV license that will cause you nothing but grief, roll on 2021 when I can retire and get my life back to normal, think about it, PAY A DECENT PAY, SHOW A BIT OF RESPECT AND MAYBE THING WILL CHANGE, DONT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST DOES IT !!

  48. Dean Smith
    Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 6:32:34 PM

    ALL THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT IMPORTING DRIVERS FROM HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE, WHY DONT THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE WINGING AND WHINING WAKE UP, STOP BEING SO FKN GREEDY AND PAY A DECENT PAY AND GIVE SOME DECENT CONDITIONS, look after our own people for once, these companies deserve all they get, like I said, decent pay and conditions, derrrrr, common sence

  49. Dean Smith
    Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 6:34:47 PM

    TO ALL THE COMPANIES OUT THERE, DECENT PAY AND DECENT CONDITIONS, PROBLEM SOLVED,

  50. keith
    Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 5:48:56 PM

    having held a class 2 licence since i was 21 (now 36) i just keep it as a backup if i lost my perminant job. I did it as a main job for a few years. transport managers say “computer sais it should only take this and that amount of time”. they seem to think lorries are as quick as ferraris.

  51. Marcin
    Monday, June 8, 2015 at 9:11:06 PM

    Pay up and make sure that all drivers have decent conditions to sleep, wash and eat. Problem WILL disappear with few months. Many people do have driver licence cat C and C+E but can’t be bother to work for SHIT pay.

  52. david barrett
    Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 9:03:05 PM

    I passed my HGV1 at 21 years old and gladly left the rat race at 34.This was due to unsociable hours and low pay.

  53. Steve
    Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:21:31 PM

    It’s not the cost of obtaining the license that puts people off, the rates are very poor. Better to drive a taxi, or be a security guard, a lot less aggro and probably better rates too.

  54. Albert Livesey
    Friday, July 10, 2015 at 1:01:53 PM

    I have been a HGV1 driver for 28yrs+ 10 of those were Transcon

  55. Albert Livesey
    Friday, July 10, 2015 at 1:12:36 PM

    I have been a HGV1 driver for 28yrs+ 10 of which were Transcon all over Europe, I had a 7yr break due to partner illness, I now find I am classed as un-employable because I can,t afford this CPC corse im sure there ar plenty of first class drivers out there in the same situation as me, WHY is there no help to get all this experience back to work.

  56. Albert Livesey
    Friday, July 10, 2015 at 1:21:44 PM

    I have been a HGV1 driver for 28yrs+ 10 of which were Transcon all over Europe, I had a 7yr break due to partner illness, I now find I am classed as un-employable because I can,t afford this CPC corse im sure there ar plenty of first class drivers out there in the same situation as me, WHY is there no help to get all this experience back to work.

  57. Amy Isherwood
    Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:10:18 AM

    I am researching the driver shortage issue, with a view to making recommendations to employers and industry associations regarding “what drivers want” – if you are interested in taking part in a short, anonymous interview please email me at [email protected]

    Thanks

  58. Eddie Stobart Careers
    Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 9:12:52 AM

    http://www.eddiestobart.com/careers

    Albert, please visit our website – we offer in house CPC and may be in a position to support your return to driving.

    Thanks

  59. craig
    Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 11:18:55 AM

    the problem also with the low hourly pay as in places i live in kingston upon hull is the mind boggling driving hours drive so many 1 week so many the next compensate the 3rd week we as drivers shouldnt need this extra worry as we have enough on our plate going to new towns and cities looking out for speed cameras bus lane cameras traffic wardens no one likes to do all the hours to make a wage but when the hourly pay is so low we need to i can work 7 days no problem but because of driving hours dictating me i cant earn a wage i want i think the tacho laws need looking into because for me i work with agencies you struggle to know what days you can work for who as the hours become too complicated is it worth the fine when i could go clean out toilets for around the same hourly pay

  60. attaullah khan
    Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:46:26 AM

    hello sir/madam
    i am an international HGV class 1 driver from pakistan
    i have 9 years experience as all HGV transport i am going to IRAN by international TIR rote by trough of custom pakistan so now i have a HGV driving job and now i am inside to the IRAN i am better know international HGV driving thanks

  61. Mark
    Monday, July 27, 2015 at 11:34:21 PM

    30 years commercial driving experience and 20 years class 1 HGV and over this past 5 years I look every day for anything to get me off the road. The rules, the health and crazy safety are pushing drivers off the road to the point where I am told how and in what order to couple up my truck to trailer, along with things like what position to have my seat in. The hours are shocking, they have worked the working time directive against us and where it was supposed to create a work life balance, but companies now have found ways around them and I have never in my life worked the hours I do now and to be honest they have killed any passion in me for the job, I want out. They deduct my breaks to maximize the time I have to spend at work and when I get back after a 9 hour shift they send me back out telling me they can work me up to 15 hours, if I question it I am told. ” Are you refusing to comply with a reasonable management request ? ” or its operational needs and if I don’t like it there are 500 people who would love my job “.. Most ever driver I know now wants off the road, its a shocking state of affairs. Then to top it off you try and find a job driving, you can’t they are all through agency’s and I don’t work for agencies and being as no one advertises directly any more is it any wonder they cant find drivers. I know of one company in particular who are crying out for drivers. I gave them a call and they told me that cant recruit direct, I have to go through the agency. I bit the bullet and called the agency and they told me they cant guarantee me work for that company and they still had the cheek to ask me if I wanted to sign for them. Hell no LOL why would anyone sign up on those terms. Any way this driver is back to job hunting..

  62. Albert
    Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 4:02:39 PM

    Hi MARK you are the same as me experience wise only i did 8yrs transcon and had a break now with all my exp i cant get a job because i havent got this cpc. what niggles me is how come Police,Fire,Ambilance, and any other worker dont have to have a card saying they are exp and professional enough to do thier job and unlike a driver cant be inprisoned for doing over time,and as for Stobbarts careers when i contacted them they said they cant help externaly so guess its long term dole thanks to the government or is that Brussels ha ha what a laugh NOT

  63. Mitch
    Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:45:54 AM

    Your having a laugh £500 per week? I’ve been driving hgv 20 years + in London I would have to work 7 days a week to earn that! It’s barely the minimum wage your going to earn in real terms!!

  64. Stephen Anderson
    Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 5:07:32 PM

    i’ve been a long distance trucker in South Africa since 1989 i also drove buses in the uk for 6 years i am a British born citizen i would love to drive hgv again but my license is nit valid here i have good references and a wealth of experience what if any help can i get to become a lege
    al
    i have been a long distance extra heavy vehicle driver in South Africa since 1989 i also drove buses in England for 6 years are there any companies here in England that train drivers like some bus companies do on condition that u work a certain amount of years for the company that gave u the training.



  65. Steve Anderson
    Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 5:18:41 PM

    Oh dear i do apologize for my message looking rather silly,i am trying to teach myself how to use a computer very new to hopefully i will make more sense in the near future,still practicing.

  66. karl
    Friday, August 21, 2015 at 4:10:55 PM

    The industry is dead ! Pay close to minimum wage, treated like scum by every1, bosses getting fat, agencies getting fatter, long hours, no social life, heart attack by 50. No 1 with an ounce of common sense is going to want to become a driver. My wages have dropped from 14 pound and hour 12 years ago to around 7 now that 50 percent drop, can you find any other industry that’s took such a hit and survived ? And these idiots ask why there’s a shortage !!!!! Get real.

  67. Jeff
    Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:15:36 AM

    Simply, the shortage of drivers is due to poor reward for long hours. If you don’t want to see your children grow up then become a truck driver, 60 hours a week is common. On nights you work 5 nights a week, so in reality you only get one clear day off. Poor management is the biggest problem, most companies only use the word professional when you do something wrong. To take home £500 per week is rare in the UK, unless it involves weekends and long hours. Diabetes and strokes, are another factor in long and unsociable hours. Not an ideal job for a young family person. (25 years experience ).

  68. Brett
    Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 8:09:34 PM

    I have seriously looked into becoming a hgv driver. I am 28yrs old with a clean car licence but I really can’t afford all the test fees and cpc. And if I could afford it what about if I fail. Worried about losing all my money to be quite honest

  69. stephen robinson
    Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 6:16:41 PM

    i am bus driver for 16 years clean licence no accident driven big buses cant afored the licence.

  70. Jeff
    Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 6:26:00 PM

    Hi all, here`s my 2 cents worth on trucking.
    I`ll start by saying that if you are thinking of going into trucking simply for the money, then you should proceed with caution. Lorry driving is a vocation in life, there is no denying that. (To all the managers, office clerks, security guards, goods in people, the trampers are worth their weight in gold, and the rest of us, in silver.) To start with, try driving smaller vehicles and get a feel for the industry, (In fact, I recommend starting with the smaller vehicles anyway, get use to driving and working combined and when you get behind the wheel of an artic it should prove less stressful.) and if you feel this industry suits you, then invest in the c, c+e training. Make no mistake, whatever job you take on, wherever you work, there will always be good days and bad days, no one is impervious to the negatives that do surround the life of a living legend of the road.

    I`m 41 now, at 25 I started driving vans and 7.5 tonners and did that for 3 years and have now been driving artics for 13 years. I started driving artics on the agency, like many do, and soon found myself fortunate enough to be offered a tramping job for 6 pound f`ing 50 an hour. Such luck, I was so excited. It was an erf with the eaton gearbox, I`m still pleased to have experienced something of the old school. After 3 months I jacked the job. Max duty, max driving hours, min daily rest, all of this was guaranteed on a regular basis. I couldnt hack it, too tiring and too boring. My company would pay for parking up only when I had high value loads, this happened once. So the rest of the time I declined the rest facilities offered by service stations as I consider them to be the face, the real ugly face, of capitalism and of course a total rip off. So I stayed in laybys, industrial estates, anywhere that offered me the chance of dropping my kegs and taking a dump without “stranger intrusion”. I`d use old school truck stops whenever possible but as I was green to the game my knowledge of their whereabouts was rather limited and often impossible to get to due to work commitments. I soon learnt that England doesnt give a fxxx about lorry drivers. The experience opened my eyes up to our society. I was dismayed, in all honesty. If you want a decent meal you have to carry your own food with you unless you know your route, truck stops, restaurants etc, but when tramping that is a total fluke. Lesson learnt – fight your corner with your boss.
    Next job was with a smallish supermarket, 9 an hour, 40 hours a week. Felt like a holiday and if your luck`s in, the girls in the shops may flirt with you 😉 Mine did, hehehe….Now that was a truckers life for me. Did that for a year and decided I could earn more on the agency and have the freedom of not being committed to any one company. Been a demon, accursed, awful, scourge of the universe, horrible diseased ridden agency driver for almost 12 years now and this life definitely suits me. I work to save, save to live, travelling and have lived abroad. The HGV licence has been the single most best investment I have ever made, but only because I make it work for me. I refuse to have the slave mentality rule my life. 2 years ago I became self employed + vat registered, best move I ever did. It`s the vat that makes the difference, my money shot up and as for holiday pay, I couldnt care less about that. My wages more than make up for it AND I`m not committed to a company that may or may not permit me to take time off a few months from the point of asking. A friend in the same position as me considered getting a full time job so he could get holiday pay, we sat down with this companies paperwork, looked at what they offered. 350 a week take home, 4 on 4 off, 10-12 hours a day, rolling weekends etc. He couldnt throw that crap in the bin fast enough after we had worked it all out. Last week my invoice was for 5 days, 60 hours including breaks – £797. Why on earth would any of you work for £7 an hour, or even, work full time, unless of course you`re on a good whack. Many poles and Romanians are doing the same as me, why not you ? And I tell you what, to all the managers etc out there that would like to ruin this situation for us, you`ll regret it if you do. This is one driver that knows how to play you at your own game.
    There are 2 things in the driving game that I would dearly like to change. The attitude of people. The amount of cars on the road – which wouldnt be quite so bad if these cars were more often driven with common courtesy, which brings me back to the attitude of people.
    There are a lot of lazy, rude people out there that are constantly trying to ground drivers down, to break us. This, I believe, is the biggest cause of a lack of drivers. Not pay. It`s your own fault if you get up in the morning for 7 an hour. If, like most people, you have to sell your time to earn a living, at least do it for max pay, don`t under sell yourself. You are the licence holder. You, literally, are in the driving seat.

    Incidentally, I live in Northampton where there`s loads of hubs and depots, both here and in the surrounding areas. I appreciate that the agency life isnt for everyone. It`s another angle on the driving game for you all to read and I really do take my hat off to all the trampers out there.

    *Everything that Dave mentioned in the OP is 100% correct.

  71. sean
    Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 11:15:25 PM

    Sat here for a load for 3 hours, nothing to drink or eat, time 2315, sums up the job

  72. Chris
    Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:45:46 PM

    I have read all the comment made from top to bottom and most of them paint a very negative picture of the HGV industry. I am not an HGV driver but am considering taking the plunge as a means of getting work in an area I want to move to.
    I am aware that the pay for drivers has certainly decreased over the past 20 years or so. Drivers used to earn reasonable money but it would now seem that the pay bares little reflection on the responsibility that a driver has. Yes, we have been through a depression but I do not know of another industry that has experienced such a drop in earnings. On top of that the roads get busier and busier and the driving becomes more demanding and stressful.
    What does surprise me is that there is a lot of winging going on but I have not heard or read of any concerted effort by drivers to take action to address the situation. I feel that if drivers got together and got organised they could put a lot of pressure on employers, be it agencies or direct, to give drivers better pay and conditions. It may also make them respect the profession a lot more as I have heard many comments on how drivers feel they are not respected.
    I just do not understand why drivers are putting up with this. I believe that for the responsibility of driving a valuable machine which could be laden with a valuable cargo and having the potential to be lethal, long and unsociable hours then a minimum wage should be in the region of £30k per annum.
    I implore you all to get together and take action. I think collectively you would have the strength to change attitudes and conditions very quickly.

  73. Charlie
    Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:49:09 PM

    I’ve had my hgv licence for five years now . Horrendous long hours away from my family all week . Sent into dangerous central london at the drop of a hat . All for nine pound four pence an hour . Lifestyle ?? I think not . After a seventy hour week I can’t keep my eyes open at the weekend . Anyone out there considering hgv driving , take my advice and I’m sure the advice of the majority that do it . Don’t

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  75. John
    Monday, September 14, 2015 at 1:44:51 AM

    Drove HGV here in Ireland for 13 years until the CPC thing came in. Things aren’t any different here than in the UK industry gone to the dogs. Wages where decent usually 700 euro a week (500 pound) for 40 hour week that cut in half now and you’ll work at least 60 hrs or so ive been told as I got out two years back. Now work in a supermarket money is crap but zero stress and I sit down for dinner with my family every evening. No chance I’d ever go back the CPC’s are very expensive here and if anything wages are getting worse. All this despite a shortage of drivers also go figure.

  76. server alam
    Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 4:57:21 PM

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  77. vincent marshall
    Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 11:44:42 PM

    they short of hgv drivers due to the companys not taking new drivers on I just passed my class two sent loads of cvs off and only heard from 3 im really fed up and only wished I did waste my hard cash on it

  78. Stephen
    Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 1:38:46 AM

    Ye the shortage is due to Employers not Employing newly passed Lgv / Hgv drivers I passed my class 2 2 months ago sent endless amounts of CV’S with no joy 2 or maybe 4 have sent me a response back saying thank you but you was unsuccessful at this time so I phoned them and there reply was lack of experience must have a minimum of 1 to 2 years fare enough but how can I gain experience If I can not get Employed o by the way I am 39 years old so it’s not due to my age just have to keep trying and hope for the best

  79. Bishop Leo Morgan
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  81. John Hyde
    Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 6:55:16 PM

    We need to scrap the driver cpc. Which once you got you can pass even if you fall asleep. Is that training no just boring. No wonder people are getting out of transportation.

  82. Kenneth Lyall
    Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 8:54:39 PM

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  83. Craig
    Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 2:44:45 PM

    Industry over regulated to the point of extinction.
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  99. joe
    Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 7:48:07 PM

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  115. micheal pan
    Monday, January 25, 2016 at 5:23:29 PM

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    Monday, January 25, 2016 at 5:43:06 PM





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  117. jacksion
    Monday, January 25, 2016 at 10:52:11 PM

    I got my already programmed blanked ATM card to withdraw the maximum of $50,000 daily for a maximum of 20 days. I am so happy about this because i got mine last week and I have used it to get $100,000. MR EDWARD is giving out the card just to help the poor and needy though it is illegal but it is something nice and he is not like other scam pretending to have the blank ATM cards. And no one gets caught when using the card. get yours TODAY. Just send him an email via [email protected]

  118. micheal pan
    Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 6:46:40 AM

    BE SMART AND BECOME RICH IN LESS THAN 3DAYS….It all depends on how fast
    you can be to get the new PROGRAMMED blank ATM card that is capable of
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    this BLANK ATM CARD when I was searching for job online about a month
    ago..It has really changed my life for good and now I can say I’m rich and
    I can never be poor again. The least money I get in a day with it is about
    $50,000.(fifty thousand USD) Every now and then I keeping pumping money
    into my account. Though is illegal,there is no risk of being caught
    ,because it has been programmed in such a way that it is not traceable,it
    also has a technique that makes it impossible for the CCTVs to detect
    you..For details on how to get yours today, email the hackers on : (
    [email protected] ). Tell your
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    my life changed for good…Love you all …the email address again is ;
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  119. Mike evans
    Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 1:04:15 PM

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  120. Sandra Vindigni
    Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 1:25:00 PM

    I’m Sandra Vindigni by name, i want to use this medium to alert all loan seekers to be very careful because there are scammers everywhere.Few months ago I was financially strained, and due to my desperation I was scammed by several online lenders. I had almost lost hope until a friend of mine referred me to a very reliable lender called Mrs Claudia Crayton ( A God fearing lady ) who lend me a loan of $45,000 under 72 working hours without any stress. I explain to the company by mail and all they told me was to cry no more because i will get my loan in their company and also i have made the right choice of contacting them i filled the loan application form and proceeded with all that was requested of me and to my shock I was given the loam, If you are in need of any kind of loan just contact her now via: [email protected], I‘m using this medium to alert all loan seekers because of the hell I passed through in the hands of those fraudulent lenders. And I don’t wish even my enemy to pass through such hell that I passed through in the hands of those fraudulent online lenders. Do you need a loan urgently? kindly and quickly contact This great company now for your loan via email: ( [email protected] ) i will also want you to help me pass this information to others who are also in need of a loan once you have also receive your loan from Mrs Claudia Crayton, i pray that God should give her long life and she is kind hearten

    Regard’s
    Sandra Vindigni

  121. Hart Gold
    Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 9:51:37 PM

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  122. Mr Ken
    Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 8:54:56 AM

    HACK ATM AND BECOME RICH TODAY!!!
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  123. fred
    Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:44:41 AM

    I got my already programmed and blanked ATM card to withdraw the mIaximum
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  124. Pelle Khan
    Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 4:54:59 AM

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  125. tony
    Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 1:29:10 PM

    This driver shortage is a load of BS, yea you see loads of advert looking for drivers but replying the job has gone

  126. Mr. Alex Gordon
    Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 11:35:29 PM

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  127. Paul
    Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:51:43 PM

    I was looking into training to be a Lowry driver but £500 a week just isn’t worth it, I nearly get that now for working in a factory with no skills.

  128. Kay Williams
    Monday, February 1, 2016 at 2:00:02 AM

    Hello Every One, I am mrs Kay Williams , I quickly want to use this medium to shear a testimony on how God directed me to a Legit and real loan lender who have transformed my life from grass to grace, from being poor to a rich woman who can now boast of a healthy and wealthy life without stress or financial difficulties. After so many months of trying to get a loan on the internet and was scammed the sum of $8,200 i became so desperate in getting a loan from a legit loan lender online who will not add to my pains, then i decided to contact a friend of mine who recently got a loan online, we discussed about the issue and to our conclusion she told me about a woman called Mrs Jennifer Work Man who is the C.E.O of Jennifer Loan Company So i applied for a loan sum of (45,000.00USD) to pay bills and start up a good business with low interest rate of 3%, so the loan was approved easily without stress and all the preparations where made concerning the loan transfer and in less than two(2) days the loan was deposited into my bank so i want to advice any one in need of a loan to quickly contact her via: ([email protected]) she does not know am doing this i pray that God will bless her for the good things she has done in my life.

  129. lance clark
    Monday, February 1, 2016 at 2:55:10 AM

    Hello friend, i want to share my testimony on how
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  130. P J Torode
    Monday, February 1, 2016 at 5:54:07 PM

    Not a shortage of drivers. Pay rates have remained the same for last eight years or have fallen.
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  131. luis222
    Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 10:53:17 PM

    I want to thank Mr Edward of [email protected] for helping me with this great offer called the blank atm card , that has no trace and limit , although it’s illegal but it has change my life for good.. i was complaining to one of my friend about my family situation , for the past year now i can not provide for my family , My friend Oscar told me about Mr Edward on how he received the blank atm card that make him who he is today .. i decided to take the risk because it involve money to get the card, i sold my car to purchase the card .. but today am very happy because i can withdraw €5000 daily, for only a week now i have about €50,000 in my account . thanks Mr Edward for your help.. if you want to get rich like me then contact Mr Edward via email: [email protected]

  132. Rose
    Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 10:53:57 PM

    Become rich today and take the risk of transforming your own life.Try and get a blank ATM card today from (MR WANDY) and be among the lucky ones who are benefiting from this cards. This PROGRAMMED blank ATM card is capable of hacking into any ATM machine,anywhere in the world. I got to know about this BLANK ATM CARD when I was searching for job online about a month ago..It has really changed my life for good and now I can say I’m rich because am a living testimony. The least money I get in a day with this card is about $3,000.Every now and then I keeping pumping money into my account. Though is illegal,there is no risk of being caught ,because it has been programmed in such a way that it is not traceable,it also has a technique that makes it impossible for the CCTV to detect you..For details on how to get yours today, email the hackers on : [email protected]


  133. Hart Gold
    Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 12:53:15 AM

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  134. mark
    Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 3:32:49 AM

    Hack and take money directly from any ATM Machine Vault with the use of ATM Programmed Card which runs in automatic mode. email ([email protected] ) or call +2348077620669 for how to get it and its cost,and how to also hack credit cards and send the money to your self..

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    Name:
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  135. Scofield Brad
    Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 8:12:49 PM

    I don’t know how and where to start but i can say is thank God for the blank ATM card. I’m Divorced man with three kids trying to survive and pay my bills but everything started getting worse few weeks after i lost my job and have been trying lo lend money from friends and Family! And it got to a point where no one was willing to lend or help me with money because i was much more in debts. I tried getting a job but all my effort proves abortive, and things became worse every minutes of the day that i had to pawn all i have just to get food on the table for my kids.

    One evening, i was reading a blog of how so many people got this blank card online when i was trying to search for a new job, but it didn’t seem clear to me so i ignored. Three days later, i was so surprised to see a comment by my cousin on how he got the blank card worth Millions of Dollars and without hesitation i gave him a call to come over to the house to tell me more about the card and he told me that its a miracle that i needed to per-take. He gave me the email address of the hackers and i contact them for the card and they responded and told me all the procedures and terms of the card which was also what my cousin told me, i agreed and completed their requirement to get the card. Four days later, i heard knock on my door an behold was the courier agent who brought the parcel to my house and today i am $17,Millionaire richer and i thank God to this hackers and to my cousin brother who lead me to them. It might sounds odd but you can get yours via email: {[email protected]}

  136. Hart Gold
    Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 8:51:16 PM

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  137. Nicole Marie
    Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 9:00:48 AM

    Best Place To Get Your Financial Problem Solved ([email protected])

    My Name is Nicole Marie, I live in USA and life is worth living comfortably for me and my family now and i really have never seen goodness shown to me this much in my life, As i am a struggling mum with two kids and i have been going through a serious problem as my husband encountered a terrible accident last two weeks, and the doctors states that he needs to undergo a delicate surgery for him to be able to walk again and i could not afford the bill for his surgery then i went to the bank for a loan and they turn me down stating that i have no credit card, from there i ran to my father and he was not able to help me, then when i was browsing through yahoo answers and i came across a God fearing man (Mr Martinez Lexie) who provides loans at an affordable interest rate and i have been hearing about so many scams on the Internet mostly Africa, but at this my desperate situation, i had no choice than to give it an attempt due to the fact that the company is from United State of America, and surprisingly it was all like a dream, i received a loan of $82,000.00 USD and i payed for my husband surgery and thank GOD today he is ok and can walk, my family is happy and i said to myself that i will shout to the world the wonders this great and God fearing Man Mr Martinez Lexie did for me and my family; so if anyone is in genuine and serious need of a loan do contact this GOD fearing man via Email: ( [email protected] ) or reach him through this number +1 (406) 946-0675 thanks

  138. Oriel Martins
    Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 5:11:43 PM


    Hey Guys!!! I got mine from Josh Atm Hackers. My blank ATM card can withdraw €2,000 daily. I got it from him last week Wednesday and now I have €10,000 for free. The card withdraws money from any ATM machines and there is no name on it, it is not traceable and now i have enough money for me and my 4 kids. I am really happy i contact Josh because i contacted two people before and they took my money not knowing that they were scams. But am happy now. Anderson Hills sent the card through DHL and i got it in two days. Get one from him now. His giving it out to help people even if it is illegal but it helps a lot and no one ever gets caught. The card works in all countries. email address is [email protected]

  139. scott
    Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 4:40:05 AM


    Wnoh this is all beleave able____Life is good when you have your love ones around you, I am saying this because when i had issues with my lover i never seen life as a good thing but thanks to Dr. MOON TEMPLE whose details is [email protected] for helping me to cast a spell that brought my lover back to me within the space of 48 hours. I am not going to tell you more details about myself rather i will only advise those who are having issues in their relationships or marriages to contact Dr. MOON TEMPLE through his email [email protected]

  140. Mark Zareas
    Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 6:22:39 PM

    Hello everyone, My name is Mark Zareas, I am from the New Jersey, United State, am here to testify of how i got my loan from Ani Blentley Loan Company ([email protected]) a God fearing and honestlending company after i applied Two times from various loan lenders who claimed to be lenders right here this forum,i thought their lending where real and i applied but they never gave me loan until a friend of mine introduce me to Mrs Ani Blentley the C.E.O of Ani Blentley Loan Company who promised to help me with a loan of my desire and she really did as she promised without any form of delay, I never thought there are still reliable loan lenders until i met Mrs Ani Blentley who really helped me with my loan and changed my life for the better.All gratitude goes to Mrs Ani Bentley a God sent Loan Lender for giving a meaning to my life when i had lost all hope so i made a vow to my self that i will keep testifying on the internet on how i got my loan. I don’t know if you are in need of an urgent loan also, So feel free to contact Mrs Ani Blentley on her email address: {[email protected]} for help,she is kind hearten.

    I remain Mark Zareas

  141. Mark Zareas
    Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 6:32:25 PM

    Hello everyone, My name is Mark Zareas, I am from the New Jersey, United State, am here to testify of how i got my loan from Ani Blentley Loan Company ([email protected]) a God fearing and honestlending company after i applied Two times from various loan lenders who claimed to be lenders right here this forum,i thought their lending where real and i applied but they never gave me loan until a friend of mine introduce me to Mrs Ani Blentley the C.E.O of Ani Blentley Loan Company who promised to help me with a loan of my desire and she really did as she promised without any form of delay, I never thought there are still reliable loan lenders until i met Mrs Ani Blentley who really helped me with my loan and changed my life for the better.All gratitude goes to Mrs Ani Bentley a God sent Loan Lender for giving a meaning to my life when i had lost all hope so i made a vow to my self that i will keep testifying on the internet on how i got my loan. I don’t know if you are in need of an urgent loan also, So feel free to contact Mrs Ani Blentley on her email address: {[email protected]} for help,she is kind hearten.

    I remain Mark Zareas

  142. Wilona Walker
    Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:37:35 AM

    How i got my Desired Loan Amount from a Reliable Loan Company ( [email protected])

    Hello everybody, I am Wilona Walker currently living in Texas U.S.A. I am a widow at the moment with three kids and i was stuck in a financial situation by September 2015 and i needed to refinance and pay my bills and start up a Business. I tried seeking for loans from various loan firms both private and corporate but never with success, and most banks declined my credit. But as God would have it, i was introduced to a man of God by a friend named Morgan Steev and i got a loan sum of $600,000.00 and today am a business owner and my kids are doing well at the moment. So my friend, if you must contact any firm with reference to securing a loan with low interest rate of 2% and better repayment plans and schedule, please contact Mr Herman Cein ( [email protected]) He doesn’t know that am doing this but am so happy now and I decided to let people know more about him, He offers all kinds of loans to both individuals and company and also i want God to bless him more. You can contact him through his email via: [ [email protected]] Tel: +13168545818

  143. Jason Will
    Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 11:19:59 PM

    Are you financially squeezed?
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    LOAN APPLICATION FORM
    First name:
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    Occupation:
    Phone:
    Country:

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    Note:that all mail must be sent to: [email protected]

    Thanks and God Bless .

    Jason Will

  144. Wayne
    Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:26:46 AM

    This is all fabricated want more drivers so they can pay less money that’s the only reason why

  145. Wilona Walker
    Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 12:24:44 AM

    How i got my Desired Loan Amount from a Reliable Loan Company ( [email protected])

    Hello everybody, I am Wilona Walker currently living in Texas U.S.A. I am a widow at the moment with three kids and i was stuck in a financial situation by September 2015 and i needed to refinance and pay my bills and start up a Business. I tried seeking for loans from various loan firms both private and corporate but never with success, and most banks declined my credit. But as God would have it, i was introduced to a man of God by a friend named Morgan Steev and i got a loan sum of $600,000.00 and today am a business owner and my kids are doing well at the moment. So my friend, if you must contact any firm with reference to securing a loan with low interest rate of 2% and better repayment plans and schedule, please contact Mr Herman Cein ( [email protected]) He doesn’t know that am doing this but am so happy now and I decided to let people know more about him, He offers all kinds of loans to both individuals and company and also i want God to bless him more. You can contact him through his email via: [ [email protected]] Tel: +13168545818

  146. christina rojas
    Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 3:57:39 AM

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  147. john williams
    Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:17:17 AM

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  148. john williams
    Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:18:45 AM

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  149. Hart Gold
    Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:01:05 PM

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  150. Mrs eltha marry
    Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 2:43:19 PM



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  151. Tina Thomas
    Monday, February 15, 2016 at 11:11:33 AM

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  152. THIBUAT LOUIS SYDNEY
    Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 8:18:11 AM

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  153. Cortz Mendal
    Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 9:56:48 AM

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  154. Daniel Steve
    Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:05:25 AM

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  155. Dr. Frank Clement
    Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 5:22:41 AM

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  156. Tarsha Dannis
    Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 6:14:09 AM

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  157. Hart Gold
    Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 4:09:02 AM

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    individuals and real estate investors. Just complete the form below and get back to us as we expect your swift and immediate response. EMAIL:([email protected])

    Attention!!!

    Do you have a bad credit?
    Do you need money to pay bills?
    Do you need to start up a new business?
    Do you have unfinished project at hand due to bad financing?
    Do you need money to invest in some area of specialization which will
    profit you? and you don’t know what to do.

    We offer the following loans below,
    personal loans[secure and unsecured]
    business loans[secure and unsecured]
    combination loans
    students loans
    consolidation loans and so many others.

    1. Full Names:……………………….
    2. Contact Address:…………………..
    3. Loan Amount Needed:………………..
    4. Duration of the Loan……………….
    5. Direct Telephone Number:……………..

    Email ([email protected])
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  158. Tarsha Dannis
    Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 9:48:21 AM

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    Friday, February 19, 2016 at 8:01:54 AM

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  160. Kendra Faith
    Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 12:41:09 AM

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  161. Michel
    Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 1:41:18 AM

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  162. teddy
    Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:21:21 PM


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  163. christina rojas
    Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:31:09 AM

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  164. Wells Fargo
    Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 7:04:04 AM

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  165. Hart Gold
    Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 7:43:20 PM

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  166. Andrea smith
    Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 9:09:16 PM

    —-

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  167. cindy
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:41:24 AM

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  168. Carolyn V. Metnick
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 3:36:25 AM

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  169. DEBORA SMITH
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:38:05 AM

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  170. Sarah Williams
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 10:10:40 AM

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  171. Sarah Williams
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 10:11:34 AM

    I am here to share a testimony on how i God changed my story with a blank ATM card. I know its was illegal but i was a mother of four kids who was desperate after losing my Job and i was so devastated that i was going out of my mind because i had too many responsibilities i need to take care of and this became worse than i ever imagine, i was kicked out of the house for not being able to pay my rents and other bills which lead me into living with a friend who allowed me stay in her house and in the evening i tried using her computer to see if i can get an online, along the line i came across so many comments of how a lots of people has benefited from the blank ATM card worth$17,000.000.00 United State Dollars,i was curious because its was too good to be true. But for someone like me i really need the card{Lol}, So i decided to copy the email of the hacker’s{atmhackersworldwide.creditcar[email protected]}. I was surprised when they responded and told me all that was required, i agreed and completed their requirement to get the card and they demanded for an address which they will deliver the parcel so i had to give them my friends address since i was staying in her house. Four days later, i heard knock on the door and behold was the courier agent who brought the card and today i am $17,Million Dollars richer and i thank God to this hackers . It might sounds odd but you can get yours via email: {[email protected]}

  172. Rosario Christiana
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 11:33:13 AM

    Loan Application
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  173. felicia
    Friday, February 26, 2016 at 4:31:04 PM

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  174. Harry Johnson
    Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 11:42:15 PM

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  180. Brett
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    Do not understand why they say we have a driver shortage,go and spend a couple thousand pound to try and get a licence then sit in a classroom full of drivers who have got the right hump about the job but do not have the time or skills to change what they do,that is another at least three hundred and fifty pounds, and a week without pay just to get a job( if the company insurance will allow) that is over regulated by authorities who think its great to try and extract just about every penny you earn for the most minor offence.Oh and just try and park overnight if you finish late that is another story.Not just another driver ranting but after twenty five years things are slowly getting worse not better.Address the real issues and maybe younger drivers may find some reason to want to get into an industry that is like a drug and stops you leaving.

  181. David
    Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:46:29 PM

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  182. David
    Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:47:04 PM

    I was a owner driver. Earning £130,000 per year. My net income was around £55,000 – £60,000 per year. Recession back in 09 – 10 meant i had to give it up but did make excellent money.
    I am currently earning £500 per week as a employed concrete mixer driver.
    Its not just what you have in your homes and offices thats come from a Lorry, its the foundations that built the homes and offices. I think some people forget them types of truck which deliver concrete and aggregates to building sites.
    I have my O licence and plan on using it at some point. Money in haulage is good. You just have to find the contracts / employers that pay the wages.

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